I mean its not like this attitude obviously carries over into irl -oh wait
Lesbians especially are told “if you don’t like guys you obviously don’t like anyone lol”. It’s not like so many fucking lesbians are told “you’re obviously ace / acearo” if they figure out they don’t like guys/ are struggling incredibly with comp het.
Yall need to maybe reevaluate your ingrained homophobia and fucking have some nuance and critical thinking for once
honestly, every time someone launches into the whole argument that “LGBT/queer does not mean that you are oppressed and therefore asexuality and/or aromanticism is inherently LGBT” i get angry because YEAH the whole FUCKING reason that the Political Coalition of Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender exists is partly because of historical cultural links and partly the fact that people recognized that their oppression was, although sometimes different, somewhat related and that political and social gains would be easier to achieve through shared political consciousness and shared political action.
and, like, hey, i really don’t mind that people identify as asexual and/or aromantic, and there are LGBT people who are one or the other or both, and i really have zero issue with that, but i don’t think that material oppression of ace/aro persons as a class has been conclusively proven to exist, whereas it HAS been proven to exist for the various classes of LGBT people, and although there are social problems that ace/aro people encounter because of these identities, those social difficulties don’t necessarily constitute a “class oppression” and furthermore i don’t really see much of a history of aro/ace people beyond stuff like AVEN (which is a fucked up thing by itself that i won’t get into).
one thing that is SUPER OFFENSIVE to me is people calling “acephobia” OR “exclusionary rhetoric” IN ANY WAY comparable to TWERF (TERF, TWEF, etc) behavior. Because in case you forgot, Transgender Woman Exterminationist Radical Feminism is a fairly specific political ideology and agenda that is essentially linked together by a few loosely agreed upon radical feminist views, which completely take a backseat to the primary objective of Trans-Misogyny and an overall goal and praxis of material oppression of transgender women.
So why are you talking as if trans women and aro/ace people are part of some united demographic or class? We are not. Aro/ace people are not, by virtue of that demographic, subject to the terrorizing and oppressing ideologically motivated violence (both structural and interpersonal!) that TWERFS HAVE done, ARE doing, and CONTINUE TO DO for the forseeable future, TO TRANSGENDER WOMEN.
Lastly, saying that Ace/Aro people are LGBT and claiming some type of shared ground on oppression implies that transgender women have, to any degree, a similarity, or comparable scope, of oppression to what ace/aro people experience as a demographic.
I think that is a VAST understatement and under-estimation of transmisogyny that seriously pisses me off. It might sound mean, but to me that appears as if you are, quite simply, creating a fantasy of being oppressed, which is necessarily offensive and harmful to the people who are actually oppressed.
I have seen, a lot of times, people propgagate the idea that bisexual, transgender, and ace/aro people have some kind of similar overall experience based on the vulgarly vague term “exclusion.” I have no idea where people get this idea, because it does not come from reality.
– free places for youth to spend time at in general
– free spaces for marginalized youth to spend time at and connect with peers
– lgbt homeless shelters
– sobriety programs/help with addiction for lgbt people
– literally any safe and supportive place for lgbt people
your solution:
– privately owned, crowdfunded queer cafe for inclusionists. 5$ for a cup of coffee please