nonbinaryglimmer:

y’all: *slams people for using microlabels*

also y’all: no you cant just say youre “queer” when we ask your gender/orientation, thats a slur not an identity.

what y’all really mean: if youre not lesbian, gay, bi, or trans, or do not identify solely as such, we dont want you in this community.

“Queer”, before being reclaimed by the LGBT community, was indeed as slur. Typically, queer means abnormal or strange, which was exactly why it was used to describe LGBT people; it was used to other us and label us as abnormal. It doesn’t seem very unreasonable that many people, myself included, don’t want to be referred to as queer/have it used as an umbrella term for the community when it carries those connotations.

The idea that our rejection of microlabels is comparable to our aversion of being called a slur and your exaggeration of LGBT people as reactionary and exclusive is, quite frankly, blatantly homophobic and transphobic. It’s disgusting that people like you who say this about the LGBT community at large would want to be a part of it.

Please, log off this website, learn some LGBT history and think before you speak.

I thought this was a good critique until:

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I mean, you had a good point, but you kinda lost me there.

miserablelittlesmugbastard:

miserablelittlesmugbastard:

celestialjawline:

miserablelittlesmugbastard:

celestialjawline:

miserablelittlesmugbastard:

celestialjawline:

itsalwayssunnyindiscourse:

the idea that anyone who approaches sex in an unconventional way (asexuals, kinky people) is LGBT is a direct product of the perception of gay sex as deviant and strange

… so you’re saying asexuality is deviant and strange,, im seeing aphobia here, in 2018,

whats it like to not know how to read

what’s it like to defend someone who’s saying asexuality is only considered valid because of homophobia

it literally. doesnt say that. it says people consider asexuality or kink to be part of the lgbt community because people have come to think of being gay as a subversion of the sexual norm, basing the entirety of their perception of lgbt people on sex, when thats not entirely what the lgbt community is about. no one is saying asexuality isnt valid because its not alone a part of the lgbt community. you dumb fuck. learn to read you complete dipshit

It’s fucking. aphobic. to group together asexuality with people who have sexual fetishes. do you not fucking understand that. no asexuals are not part of “lgbt” but they ARE apart of “lqbtq+” when people with fetishes are NOT. So, to say asexuality is in the same fucking category as people with kinks fucking invalidates asexuality. Dumb bitch. Op also doesn’t think pansexuality is different from bisexuality which is fucking wrong. So please fucking hitch your horse to their wagon, I’d love to argue ignorant bitch!

theyre saying that they are both groups that people consider lgbt for similar reasons. they did not say that asexuals and kink ppl are in the same category. they just said that theyre both wrongly considered lgbt. i also hate kink freaks and dont think they belong anywhere near the ace or lgbt community. you really didnt understand the intention of original post at all and just knee jerk reacted to the mention of asexuality

i just realized im arguing on the internet and i have a bank account and friends so i have to go be an adult . goodnight folks

lgbtkilljoys:

miz-andry:

roseygal99:

Why does it seem like most “official” LGBT orgs include asexuals but on tumblr asexuals are vehemently excluded from the community? Why is there such a disconnect between the online community and the irl community?

corporations pandering to aces for easy money and lgbt orgs being threatened with defunding if they don’t worship cishet boots doesn’t mean we want them here lmfao

surprisingly enough, aces tend to spend a lot of money on merch because they don’t run any risk wearing it in public who knew

hate2breakittoya:

aces being personally offended by the sexualized content media produces as though its acephobia and not the result of misogyny, heteronormativity and hypermasculinity – what makes you think we benefit from sexualization when that’s how gay people have been vilified always. what makes you think we benefit from the popularity of lesbian porn made for the straight male gaze

gayantigone:

ace discourse is literally the stupidest thing this site has come up with, like. less than 20 years ago a horrible misogynistic homophobe articulated an identity based on saying nasty shit about his wife and started a forum for this. the definition of this identity was warped to include, among others: experiencing compulsory heterosexuality, being a bottom, or the state of not wanting to have sex with every person you see in the street, and now people are arguing that these identities are systematically oppressed and historically linked to being gay and trans. mayhaps you should think critically for five fucking seconds hm?